1 00:00:06,950 --> 00:00:05,269 so two of the crew members on board the 2 00:00:09,030 --> 00:00:06,960 international space station right now 3 00:00:11,830 --> 00:00:09,040 scott kelly mikhail kornyenko digging in 4 00:00:12,870 --> 00:00:11,840 to spend almost entire year in orbit and 5 00:00:14,549 --> 00:00:12,880 they're going to be doing a lot of 6 00:00:16,710 --> 00:00:14,559 studies that are going to be tracking 7 00:00:19,189 --> 00:00:16,720 how the body adapts to even longer times 8 00:00:20,790 --> 00:00:19,199 in microgravity now i have with me one 9 00:00:23,109 --> 00:00:20,800 of the principal investigators of one of 10 00:00:25,509 --> 00:00:23,119 those studies dr tina holden who's the 11 00:00:26,790 --> 00:00:25,519 pi for the fine motor skills study first 12 00:00:29,269 --> 00:00:26,800 off thank you so much for joining me 13 00:00:31,509 --> 00:00:29,279 today doctor and first off give me just 14 00:00:33,270 --> 00:00:31,519 a real general overview what is it that 15 00:00:35,430 --> 00:00:33,280 you guys are looking for while they're 16 00:00:37,430 --> 00:00:35,440 in space you know that kind of that 17 00:00:38,630 --> 00:00:37,440 microgravity can do to the body while 18 00:00:40,229 --> 00:00:38,640 they're up there 19 00:00:42,709 --> 00:00:40,239 well we know from the spaceflight 20 00:00:44,470 --> 00:00:42,719 experience that we have to date that 21 00:00:45,990 --> 00:00:44,480 extended weightlessness tends to 22 00:00:48,869 --> 00:00:46,000 decondition the body and that's why it's 23 00:00:50,709 --> 00:00:48,879 so important for crew to do exercise on 24 00:00:52,630 --> 00:00:50,719 board what we don't really have a good 25 00:00:55,110 --> 00:00:52,640 handle on is what are the effects of 26 00:00:56,869 --> 00:00:55,120 extended microgravity on fine motor 27 00:00:58,389 --> 00:00:56,879 skills we don't really have a complete 28 00:00:59,830 --> 00:00:58,399 data set in that area 29 00:01:01,830 --> 00:00:59,840 and so the results are kind of 30 00:01:04,149 --> 00:01:01,840 inconclusive at this point okay and when 31 00:01:06,230 --> 00:01:04,159 you talk fine motor skills what what 32 00:01:07,750 --> 00:01:06,240 falls into that category 33 00:01:09,750 --> 00:01:07,760 well it's important to note that this 34 00:01:11,990 --> 00:01:09,760 study is not a medical study it is a 35 00:01:13,510 --> 00:01:12,000 space human factors engineering study 36 00:01:15,749 --> 00:01:13,520 okay and what that means is that we're 37 00:01:17,670 --> 00:01:15,759 very focused on the effects of 38 00:01:20,310 --> 00:01:17,680 long-duration microgravity on task 39 00:01:22,310 --> 00:01:20,320 performance specifically fine motor task 40 00:01:24,550 --> 00:01:22,320 performance the type that's required to 41 00:01:26,550 --> 00:01:24,560 interact with computer-based devices 42 00:01:29,429 --> 00:01:26,560 like tablet computers with touch screens 43 00:01:31,590 --> 00:01:29,439 so a lot of dexterous activities things 44 00:01:32,710 --> 00:01:31,600 like that just really you know working 45 00:01:34,390 --> 00:01:32,720 with their hands a lot that kind of 46 00:01:36,310 --> 00:01:34,400 falls into the fine motor 47 00:01:39,350 --> 00:01:36,320 exactly and particularly human computer 48 00:01:41,429 --> 00:01:39,360 action interaction so your ability to 49 00:01:43,590 --> 00:01:41,439 interact with user interface pointing 50 00:01:46,069 --> 00:01:43,600 clicking dragging targets on the screen 51 00:01:47,590 --> 00:01:46,079 okay and so we've had crews flying to 52 00:01:49,270 --> 00:01:47,600 the international space station for 53 00:01:51,749 --> 00:01:49,280 years now and i mean what are some of 54 00:01:54,069 --> 00:01:51,759 the things that we've seen with their 55 00:01:56,709 --> 00:01:54,079 you know fine motor skills in that time 56 00:01:58,310 --> 00:01:56,719 so far we know for the most part crews 57 00:02:00,310 --> 00:01:58,320 have been very successful in completing 58 00:02:03,270 --> 00:02:00,320 their mission objectives and we really 59 00:02:05,030 --> 00:02:03,280 haven't seen uh problems but there 60 00:02:07,109 --> 00:02:05,040 haven't been a lot of studies looking at 61 00:02:08,869 --> 00:02:07,119 the fine details of how long tasks are 62 00:02:10,869 --> 00:02:08,879 taking to perform there have been a few 63 00:02:12,390 --> 00:02:10,879 studies that have shown tasks take 64 00:02:14,309 --> 00:02:12,400 longer in microgravity than on the 65 00:02:15,910 --> 00:02:14,319 ground but really none of the studies 66 00:02:17,270 --> 00:02:15,920 completed have looked at the types of 67 00:02:19,270 --> 00:02:17,280 tests that we're including in this 68 00:02:21,589 --> 00:02:19,280 investigation those specifically 69 00:02:24,229 --> 00:02:21,599 targeted at working with computer-based 70 00:02:25,830 --> 00:02:24,239 devices okay walk me walk me through 71 00:02:27,750 --> 00:02:25,840 some of the tests that you guys are 72 00:02:30,070 --> 00:02:27,760 going to be doing how are you collecting 73 00:02:32,470 --> 00:02:30,080 you know the data for this study 74 00:02:34,949 --> 00:02:32,480 okay so we're going to have crew members 75 00:02:37,110 --> 00:02:34,959 complete four different types of tasks 76 00:02:38,390 --> 00:02:37,120 these have been very specifically chosen 77 00:02:40,150 --> 00:02:38,400 because they 78 00:02:43,110 --> 00:02:40,160 include the component actions of 79 00:02:45,830 --> 00:02:43,120 interacting with a computer-based device 80 00:02:46,470 --> 00:02:45,840 they are a pointing task a dragging task 81 00:02:57,270 --> 00:02:46,480 a 82 00:02:59,430 --> 00:02:57,280 on iss for science so it's kind of 83 00:03:01,430 --> 00:02:59,440 exciting okay yeah i mean they use them 84 00:03:03,430 --> 00:03:01,440 for a lot of just reading manuals and 85 00:03:06,149 --> 00:03:03,440 stuff like that and so and this is 86 00:03:07,990 --> 00:03:06,159 important because you know so much more 87 00:03:10,070 --> 00:03:08,000 and more things are computerized and 88 00:03:11,589 --> 00:03:10,080 miniaturized so really tracking that 89 00:03:13,350 --> 00:03:11,599 fine motor skill could be important and 90 00:03:15,509 --> 00:03:13,360 we need to see if there is anything that 91 00:03:17,270 --> 00:03:15,519 could inhibit that correct absolutely 92 00:03:19,589 --> 00:03:17,280 and our real concern is just making sure 93 00:03:21,830 --> 00:03:19,599 that in the future if a crew member goes 94 00:03:23,509 --> 00:03:21,840 on a long duration flight to mars for 95 00:03:25,750 --> 00:03:23,519 example that when they go down to the 96 00:03:27,350 --> 00:03:25,760 planetary surface and need to interact 97 00:03:29,509 --> 00:03:27,360 with their computer-based devices they 98 00:03:31,270 --> 00:03:29,519 can do so with accuracy okay and what 99 00:03:33,509 --> 00:03:31,280 are some of the so much of the research 100 00:03:35,509 --> 00:03:33,519 we do on station has direct effects and 101 00:03:36,949 --> 00:03:35,519 benefits for us down here on earth what 102 00:03:38,630 --> 00:03:36,959 are some of the benefits or some of the 103 00:03:40,309 --> 00:03:38,640 things that we could hope to learn from 104 00:03:42,070 --> 00:03:40,319 this study that you know you and i down 105 00:03:44,390 --> 00:03:42,080 here on earth might you know benefit 106 00:03:46,070 --> 00:03:44,400 from we're very excited about the 107 00:03:48,630 --> 00:03:46,080 development of this fine motor skills 108 00:03:50,949 --> 00:03:48,640 test battery and we think that it has 109 00:03:53,350 --> 00:03:50,959 promised to be used as a diagnostic tool 110 00:03:56,390 --> 00:03:53,360 or rehabilitation tool for earth 111 00:03:58,149 --> 00:03:56,400 populations who have fine motor deficits 112 00:03:59,990 --> 00:03:58,159 and that would include people for 113 00:04:02,390 --> 00:04:00,000 example that have brain injuries or 114 00:04:04,309 --> 00:04:02,400 suffering from diseases like parkinson's 115 00:04:05,830 --> 00:04:04,319 okay so not only safeguarding our 116 00:04:07,350 --> 00:04:05,840 astronauts and making sure they'll be 117 00:04:09,030 --> 00:04:07,360 able to work when they're heading off to 118 00:04:10,710 --> 00:04:09,040 mars but also potentially helping you 119 00:04:13,030 --> 00:04:10,720 know some of us down here on earth 120 00:04:14,550 --> 00:04:13,040 absolutely very cool well again dr tina 121 00:04:16,710 --> 00:04:14,560 holden the principal investigator for 122 00:04:18,150 --> 00:04:16,720 fine motor skills taking place onboard 123 00:04:20,229 --> 00:04:18,160 the international space station right 124 00:04:22,069 --> 00:04:20,239 now with the one-year crew member scott 125 00:04:23,590 --> 00:04:22,079 kelly mikhail kornanko doctor thank you